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Title: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: blacky1.8T on Sep 02, 08, 00:49
So i have cold air intake on my car for a while and have been enjoying it. It is reaching down behind the bumper breathing cold air and it makes good noise. Now my concern is, during the long rainy season in Vancouver, it will get wet for sure. Is there any way to prevent it from getting wet? Or should I just forget about having a cold air intake. Suggestions please. :(
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Jim Rock on Sep 02, 08, 01:59
don't drive with your hood open.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: RONDAL on Sep 02, 08, 07:01
unless you plan on submerging your car and the intake and hitting WOT in the process you will be fine.

Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Moofluffen on Sep 02, 08, 07:47
You'll be fine.

Just avoid deep water on the intake side of the car, but like Rondal suggested, you really don't need to worry unless you plan on submerging the car. You could always just take it off for the winter if you're really concerned.

I have a K&N filter bag over my air filter to block out a little more water.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: 88Clipper on Sep 02, 08, 08:39
I have a K&N filter bag over my air filter to block out a little more water.

Great investment! Plus it will double the life of your filter.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Maxvw on Sep 02, 08, 08:49
the only problem i had with my scirocco's CAI was when it was snowing and the filter turned into a snowball
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Got Warts on Sep 02, 08, 10:02
Get an AEM bypass valve, that will catch any water going through your intake.

They are like $50 at Lordco.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: RONDAL on Sep 02, 08, 10:40
do what this guy did

http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80267
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: jettag60v2 on Sep 02, 08, 10:48
repost
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Relyk on Sep 02, 08, 10:52
do what this guy did

http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80267
rofl rondal i cant breathe  :rofl:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: blacky1.8T on Sep 02, 08, 11:15
do what this guy did

http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80267

Hahahahhaaa~~ :lol:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: blacky1.8T on Sep 02, 08, 11:19
Thanks guys. So looks like as long as i don't drive into a pond i will be fine. But doesn't the filter get splashed with water since its so close to the ground and effect its performance?
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: dexterrorist on Sep 02, 08, 11:26
if you're using a k&n (of something similar), the oil in the filter should repel the small amount of splashes that get up there. just avoid really, really deep puddles and/or lakes.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: RONDAL on Sep 02, 08, 11:43
The only thing you may want to do is clean your filter a little more often and make sure its properly oiled.  DO NOT OVER OIL IT THO!!!
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Schmiesus on Sep 02, 08, 12:09
  DO NOT OVER OIL IT THO!!!
been there, done that.... down one turbo
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: ckone on Sep 02, 08, 12:11
Fuck me…. People still buy cold air intakes? :wall: What the fuck for? Seriously, unless you plan on dragging a ¼ mile against another car, might I suggest jus going with a panel filter in a regular air box?
If you do happen to own a 1.8T Golf, then having a CAI is going to do nothing for you. If you really want cold air charge, then put a big assed intercooler on your car. Putting a CAI without an inter-cooler is like putting a rubber on after you jacked off on the girlfriends ass….
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Relyk on Sep 02, 08, 12:13
Putting a CAI without an inter-cooler is like putting a rubber on after you jacked off on the girlfriends ass….

:lol: :rofl: sig'd
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: RONDAL on Sep 02, 08, 12:17
Fuck me…. People still buy cold air intakes? :wall: What the fuck for? Seriously, unless you plan on dragging a ¼ mile against another car, might I suggest jus going with a panel filter in a regular air box?
If you do happen to own a 1.8T Golf, then having a CAI is going to do nothing for you. If you really want cold air charge, then put a big assed intercooler on your car. Putting a CAI without an inter-cooler is like putting a rubber on after you jacked off on the girlfriends ass….


come on...its still 2002 right?  CAI is still considered a 10whp mod...15whp IF you add the K&N sticker.

Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: ckone on Sep 02, 08, 12:51
come on...its still 2002 right?  CAI is still considered a 10whp mod...15whp IF you add the K&N sticker.

If it is -15 degrees out side.....  :thumbup:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: 88Clipper on Sep 02, 08, 12:53
Of course. That's why they dyno test CAI's at the North Pole.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: yvrnycracer on Sep 02, 08, 12:54
come on...its still 2002 right?  CAI is still considered a 10whp mod...15whp IF you add the K&N sticker.



and isn't like 35 if you add a big round exhaust tip?!!?  :suspicious:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Relyk on Sep 02, 08, 12:56
and isn't like 35 if you add a big round exhaust tip?!!?  :suspicious:
ugh... no newb its if you cut your springs, the exhaust tip adds 60whp...
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Moofluffen on Sep 02, 08, 12:56
I have a CAI just for the sound  :suspicious:

... sadly, that's the truth.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Relyk on Sep 02, 08, 12:57
I have a CAI just for the sound  :suspicious:

... sadly, that's the truth.
LOL
i wanted one for the same reason
 :suspicious:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: RONDAL on Sep 02, 08, 14:45
just get a cone filter then or swiss cheese your airbox.  yay for free mods
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Relyk on Sep 02, 08, 14:46
just get a cone filter then or swiss cheese your airbox.  yay for free mods
but then my airbox looks like poo poo and my engine bay looks riced yo
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: RONDAL on Sep 02, 08, 14:48
you dont even see it you moron.  thats the beauty of it.

oh wait...you're one of the idiots who drills the part after the filter.



CAN SOMEONE CALL THIS KIDS PARENTS AND ASK THEM TO TAKE BACK THEIR CAR KEYS PLEASE??
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Nick_2.8L on Sep 02, 08, 16:36
I have a CAI just for the sound  :suspicious:

... sadly, that's the truth.

this is all any CAI is good for anyways  :rofl:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Relyk on Sep 02, 08, 16:39
you dont even see it you moron.  thats the beauty of it.

oh wait...you're one of the idiots who drills the part after the filter.



CAN SOMEONE CALL THIS KIDS PARENTS AND ASK THEM TO TAKE BACK THEIR CAR KEYS PLEASE??
rofl my parents couldn't touch my car! all mine :)

but hey, you should show me how to chop up my airbox :D
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: archangel06 on Sep 02, 08, 17:32
just avoid really, really deep puddles and/or lakes.

 :rofl:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: special K on Sep 02, 08, 17:51
i think this may be the first cai thread on dubberz...  :o
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: bootymac on Sep 02, 08, 18:00
this is all any CAI is good for anyways  :rofl:

QFT. Only reason why I have mine :hi:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Moofluffen on Sep 02, 08, 19:14
Really, does anyone actually expect to get anything out of a CAI other than just awesome noise? Really now...?
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: bootymac on Sep 02, 08, 19:53
+5 street cred
+7 CarDomain points
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Relyk on Sep 02, 08, 19:54
+5 street cred
+7 CarDomain points
ugh i think its a requirement to be riced out to get 5 stars on that site.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: ckone on Sep 02, 08, 20:34
Really, does anyone actually expect to get anything out of a CAI other than just awesome noise? Really now...?

and about $120 lighter in the bank...... If you want the same noise as a CAI - go to home depot, and buy a friggen shop vac filter. Same bloody thing!
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Superstarrr on Sep 02, 08, 21:57
just zap strap a plastic bag over it. it works wonders.  :rockin:

be sure to take the bag off in summer time though, or hot weather. plastic bags and hot weather dont mix too well, especially when its on the filter.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: blacky1.8T on Sep 05, 08, 12:21
just zap strap a plastic bag over it. it works wonders.  :rockin:

be sure to take the bag off in summer time though, or hot weather. plastic bags and hot weather dont mix too well, especially when its on the filter.


Ya right ~~. How about a large size condom with fitted design.  :stupid:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Moofluffen on Sep 05, 08, 12:40
Try that K&N filter bag. It's worked well for me. Keeps alot of road crap off the filter.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: 88Clipper on Sep 05, 08, 12:50
Try that K&N filter bag. It's worked well for me. Keeps alot of road crap off the filter.

Again... FTW...

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Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: jesse on Sep 05, 08, 13:05
Try that K&N filter bag. It's worked well for me. Keeps alot of road crap off the filter.

Many other companys make these bags. they are basically a very tiny screen that allowes air molicules to pass through but not water molicules. other than moving your filter into the engine bay this is the only logcal way to prevent water from getting in it

Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: ckone on Sep 05, 08, 13:55
Many other companys make these bags. they are basically a very tiny screen that allowes air molicules to pass through but not water molicules. other than moving your filter into the engine bay this is the only logcal way to prevent water from getting in it

The real logical way is to use the factory air box with a good panel filter. The Cones work best with normally aspirated motors. Turbos, like a vacume sucks as much air as it possibly can.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: germanstyle on Sep 05, 08, 14:08
Wow, noobs helping noobs.  :rolleyes:

Honestly unless your driving through large lakes or you decided this is the year you want to start puddle jumping your car you won't have any problem with sucking up unwanted water into the engine bay.  Watch where you drive and be aware to not hit puddles on the drivers side and you'll be golden.  Not a big enough problem or issue for 3 pages.  ;)
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: 88Clipper on Sep 05, 08, 14:12
The real logical way is to use the factory air box with a good panel filter. The Cones work best with normally aspirated motors. Turbos, like a vacume sucks as much air as it possibly can.

I wouldn't say that's entirely true.
Not VW content...

(http://dubberz.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos-h.ak.facebook.com%2Fphotos-ak-sf2p%2Fv339%2F104%2F90%2F770725331%2Fn770725331_4036391_9853.jpg&hash=d1f9b5c8553a0b6705da48f59d187e96)

That got me noticeably more power than a K&N panel filter - even more with a heat shield.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: ckone on Sep 05, 08, 14:17
I wouldn't say that's entirely true.
Not VW content...
That got me noticeably more power than a K&N panel filter - even more with a heat shield.

is that a butt dyno? :suspicious:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: 88Clipper on Sep 05, 08, 14:18
is that a butt dyno? :suspicious:

 :lol: :rolleyes:

It's been dyno proven. I can dig up the sheets if you'd like?
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: germanstyle on Sep 05, 08, 14:20
:lol: :rolleyes:

It's been dyno proven. I can dig up the sheets if you'd like?

I would like that actually...lets see this whopping 3hp that you can feel with the filter.  :rolleyes:

It's amazing how much sound convinces people that have more power  ;)
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: bootymac on Sep 05, 08, 14:21
The real logical way is to use the factory air box with a good panel filter. The Cones work best with normally aspirated motors. Turbos, like a vacume sucks as much air as it possibly can.

What's the reasoning behind this? Not trying to stir shit, I'm genuinely interested
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: BALLERina on Sep 05, 08, 14:22
I wouldn't say that's entirely true.
Not VW content...

(http://dubberz.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos-h.ak.facebook.com%2Fphotos-ak-sf2p%2Fv339%2F104%2F90%2F770725331%2Fn770725331_4036391_9853.jpg&hash=d1f9b5c8553a0b6705da48f59d187e96)

That got me noticeably more power than a K&N panel filter - even more with a heat shield.

so?
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: 88Clipper on Sep 05, 08, 14:34
Someone is deleting my posts...  :suspicious:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: 88Clipper on Sep 05, 08, 14:35
I would like that actually...lets see this whopping 3hp that you can feel with the filter.  :rolleyes:

It's amazing how much sound convinces people that have more power  ;)

WAS IT YOU?!

Let's try this again:
Yes, 3hp on a 2.0 4cyl. Not on a motor 3 times the size with 4x the power.

I'll try to dig those dyno sheets up  :thumbup:
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: germanstyle on Sep 05, 08, 14:36
Someone is deleting my posts...  :suspicious:

That was me, I hit the wrong button...my bad, don't get your panties in a knot over it

But I read your post first and I was trying to write that I'd like to see proof if you're so sure that they add that much hp.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: ckone on Sep 05, 08, 14:37
What's the reasoning behind this? Not trying to stir shit, I'm genuinely interested
From how it was explained to me, and some of the more informed may correct me here – A normally aspirated motor needs less restrictive and direct air management system. Since it is using the piston to suck the air, the rate at which it can enter into the system is very low (in comparison to a turbo). So if you look at say a Pontiac Ram Air system where the air intake is basically on top of the intake manifold with little to no “bends” in the system, the air flow is less susceptible to “eddy currents” that are created and this affect the flow. On NA motors the bigger the surface (within reason of course) the less opportunity there is for restriction on the motor sucking the air in. It is like you sucking on a bubble tea straw and using either a filter on the tip that just covers the end, vs a big cone on the end, there is less restriction.

A turbo, it does not matter as much because the turbo is sucking air in like a vacuum cleaner. The only thing restricting the air into the turbo is the turbo itself (within reason). So if you were to measure it inside diameter of the turbo inlet and compare this to the ID of the hole into the stock air box, you will see that it is the same size. Yes Swiss Cheesing the air box may help a bit, but the restricting factor is still the turbo inlet ID and the CFM of that turbo.

This is how it was explained to me.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: 88Clipper on Sep 05, 08, 14:37
That was me, I hit the wrong button...my bad, don't get your panties in a knot over it

But I read your post first and I was trying to write that I'd like to see proof if you're so sure that they add that much hp.

I didn't say how much! It is certainly more than 3hp though  ;)
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: germanstyle on Sep 05, 08, 14:40
I didn't say how much! It is certainly more than 3hp though  ;)

And I'm asking how do you know?  Don't spout off crap without having anything to back it up.  There are a lot of us on the board that have been doing this a long time, we've seen what works and what doesn't work.  So if you want to prove it then make a believer out of me, other than that don't spout off.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: Schmiesus on Sep 05, 08, 14:43
I didn't say how much! It is certainly more than 3hp though  ;)
i wants... oh wait it didnt work for me
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: 88Clipper on Sep 05, 08, 14:49
And I'm asking how do you know?  Don't spout off crap without having anything to back it up.  There are a lot of us on the board that have been doing this a long time, we've seen what works and what doesn't work.  So if you want to prove it then make a believer out of me, other than that don't spout off.

You've done a lot of work on big diesel's?

I'm looking for the dyno sheet be patient!
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: germanstyle on Sep 05, 08, 14:52
You've done a lot of work on big diesel's?

I'm looking for the dyno sheet be patient!

We're not talking big diesels here, we're talking about cars.  Since when did the topic change?  And would talking about big diesels be at all relevant to the subject at hand?
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: 88Clipper on Sep 05, 08, 14:58
We're not talking big diesels here, we're talking about cars.  Since when did the topic change?  And would talking about big diesels be at all relevant to the subject at hand?

I clearly stated non VW content and it was in reply to ckone's comment that I also clearly bolded "The Cones work best with normally aspirated motors". My point was that on my vehicle the cone filter I put in yielded more power than a K&N panel filter.

I'm aware on N/A 4cyl's it doesn't make any difference.
Title: Re: How to keep cold air intake from getting wet during the rain season?
Post by: germanstyle on Sep 05, 08, 15:01
Okay so this obviously went way off topic, but thanks for sharing your knowledge of non-vw engines on a volkswagen site, much appreciated.  :rolleyes:

As said before to the OP, just be careful where you drive and you'll be fine, it's nothing to worry about. :thumbup:

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