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Hic

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Best TDI under $10,000?
« on: Apr 18, 17, 11:54 »
I am looking for an automatic TDI that is capable of at least 40+mpg mixed driving (it is okay if it takes a tune and/or exhaust modifications to reach that goal).

Options:
MK4 99-03 : desirable ALH but the 01M are unreliable and expensive to repair/replace, so I want to stay away from those.

MK4 04-06 : has camshaft issue, but using proper oil may prevent it. 09A is much more reliable, and I'd rather change camshaft than transmission.

04-06 DSG Beetles : are these early DSGs reliable? I'm assuming these will net better fuel efficiency than the traditional torque converter design of the 09A.

Are MK5 worth looking into? I haven't looked into them because of their​ lower fuel efficiency, but maybe slight mods can net 40+mpg in the automatics?

MK6 : this is ideal, but a little over the budget and clean title automatic Golf TDIs seem to be non-existent on the classifieds.

aba16v

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #1 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:11 »
MK5 jetta, BRM DSG is your best option. Malone stocks colt cams if you need one. 09As are always a gamble, wouldn't bother with an earlier 4 speed. Beetles are harder to work on.

Wouldn't waste your time with a commonrail given the HPFP and DPF problems and looming emissions updates, unless you can get a good deal. I've seen a few cars around 6-10k. Better off buying a rebuilt one if you want one, they will be severely underpriced because VW won't be buying them back. CP3 mini pumps will work without tuning.

Feel free to pm me if you have any questions, I work for Malone.
« Last Edit: Apr 18, 17, 12:13 by aba16v »

AirCooledRules

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #2 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:23 »
I think the late 2009 + TDIs will actually hold their Value very well due to the fact that there will be a very limited supply shortly. 

I've got some Nice TDis but they are over $10,000.

- 2013 Beetle TDI 6-Speed
- 2013 Golf Sportwagon TDI DSG
- 2014 Golf Sportwagon TDI DSG
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Hic

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #3 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:24 »
MK5 jetta, BRM DSG is your best option. Malone stocks colt cams if you need one. 09As are always a gamble, wouldn't bother with an earlier 4 speed. Beetles are harder to work on.

Wouldn't waste your time with a commonrail given the HPFP and DPF problems and looming emissions updates, unless you can get a good deal. I've seen a few cars around 6-10k. Better off buying a rebuilt one if you want one, they will be severely underpriced because VW won't be buying them back. CP3 mini pumps will work without tuning.

Feel free to pm me if you have any questions, I work for Malone.

What's the expected fuel efficiency from an automatic BRM? 

I would delete the DPF and EGR if I go the MK6 route.
« Last Edit: Apr 18, 17, 12:25 by Hic »

Hic

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #4 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:26 »
I think the late 2009 + TDIs will actually hold their Value very well due to the fact that there will be a very limited supply shortly. 

I've got some Nice TDis but they are over $10,000.

- 2013 Beetle TDI 6-Speed
- 2013 Golf Sportwagon TDI DSG
- 2014 Golf Sportwagon TDI DSG

Looking for a hatchback. :( How is the fuel efficiency on your cars? Do you have a Fuelly profile?

I also think the MK6 TDI will hold their value well. German built, and the CJAA makes good power and nets great fuel efficiency with a few inexpensive mods.
« Last Edit: Apr 18, 17, 12:28 by Hic »

AirCooledRules

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #5 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:30 »
I havnt out any mileage on those cars and my daily drivers are all Gasoline but I did take a MK6 Sportwagon to The Oregon Coast in the summer and made the round trip almost one 1 tank $37 fill up in Blaine.

They are awesome.  They are quiet, have plenty of power and don't smell.  You wouldn't know you were driving a diesel if someone didn't tell you.
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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #6 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:31 »
If a 6-speed TDI Beetle interests you, I will be selling it not very much over your budget. The car is having a downpipe built right now and will be getting a emissions delete tune.
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Hic

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #7 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:35 »
If a 6-speed TDI Beetle interests you, I will be selling it not very much over your budget. The car is having a downpipe built right now and will be getting a emissions delete tune.

I am only looking for automatics, is it automatic?

Hic

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #8 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:39 »
I havnt out any mileage on those cars and my daily drivers are all Gasoline but I did take a MK6 Sportwagon to The Oregon Coast in the summer and made the round trip almost one 1 tank $37 fill up in Blaine.

They are awesome.  They are quiet, have plenty of power and don't smell.  You wouldn't know you were driving a diesel if someone didn't tell you.

My best record was a Seattle to Blaine trip, netting 2.87L/100km. It cost about $4, around 81mpg (US gallons).

AirCooledRules

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #9 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:46 »
Impressive. No that one is Manual
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Hic

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #10 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:48 »
Impressive. No that one is Manual

I would prefer manual but the car is not for me.

aba16v

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #11 on: Apr 18, 17, 12:55 »
I get 5.6-6L/100 city in my manual BEW. Friend gets around 6.8 or so with an autotragic. Would expect low 6s with a DSG, low 5s highway.

Those are pretty normal numbers, will need a VE manual to get sub 5L/100, or a lighter car. Commonrails with deletes will get down there too with a manual.

Hic

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #12 on: Apr 18, 17, 13:13 »
I get 5.6-6L/100 city in my manual BEW. Friend gets around 6.8 or so with an autotragic. Would expect low 6s with a DSG, low 5s highway.

Those are pretty normal numbers, will need a VE manual to get sub 5L/100, or a lighter car. Commonrails with deletes will get down there too with a manual.

Around a flat 6.0L/100km mixed on a DSG BRM then? Is that stock? Are there tuning options to get better FE?

aba16v

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #13 on: Apr 19, 17, 13:37 »
Other than removing the cat (it will smell), running say a stage 2 colt cam, or swapping to newer nozzles, there's not really anything to be gained in terms of fuel economy with tuning. 50MPG from a VE and 45 from a PD is about as good as it normally gets.

Gerg

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #14 on: Apr 19, 17, 15:30 »
VE being 1Z/AHU/ALH?
'92 GTI VRT - '93.5 Corrado VR6  - '04 R32

aba16v

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Re: Best TDI under $10,000?
« Reply #15 on: Apr 19, 17, 15:45 »
Correct. ALH has slightly better control than the AHU/1Z and as a result normally gets better performance and fuel economy.
« Last Edit: Apr 19, 17, 15:45 by aba16v »