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Gerg

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Hitting the track
« on: Nov 24, 16, 09:29 »
Hey guys, I've had a real itch lately to get out for some track (road course) time in 2017 with my mk2 vrt after some brake and wheel/tire upgrades.

Anyone else going to try it out?
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hellgti

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #1 on: Nov 24, 16, 09:35 »
I'd love to. After driving super cars in Vegas I've been putting serious thought into building something to track. I worked with a guy who did track events at Pitt airport.
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Stephan Schmidt

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #2 on: Nov 24, 16, 10:03 »
Road Racing is VERY expensive and requires a big time commitment, hence why a lot of people don't do it.  A track day (especially at mission which is very hard on your brakes) costs you $200 ish for the day, 50% of your brakes and tires :P

Membership to a club is typical as well, about $25-50 / year.

The ridge in Washington is about $250 USD / day, plus it takes a day to get there, over night hotel costs, fuel, etc.. plan on a single lapping weekend to cost you $6-800 Canadian plus all of the wear and possible breakage on your car.

Not swaying you one way or another as road race prepped cars are my favorite, but its just so darn expensive!

najob

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #3 on: Nov 24, 16, 10:25 »
Just buy a Golf R, it's VW's supercar.
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aba16v

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #4 on: Nov 24, 16, 10:27 »
Just buy a Golf R, it's VW's supercar.

Might as well save your money and play gran turismo with an electric steering wheel.

Stephan Schmidt

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #5 on: Nov 24, 16, 10:38 »
Just buy a Golf R, it's VW's supercar.

LOL - At least the north america's version!

However I'd rather have a track ready porsche, lotus, mustang, nsx, 240, miata or whatever else for the price of a stock Golf R. :yes:
« Last Edit: Nov 24, 16, 10:39 by Stephan Schmidt »

killerb09

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #6 on: Nov 24, 16, 10:39 »
Years ago when I lived in NS and talked to some regular AMP race goers it was thought I would dive into the racing there.

After talking with lots of big name racers(at that time in NS) it was concluded never to track a daily driver car, never track your only car and keep a good stock of Rotors/pads/tires/wheels/body parts.

They all were running dedicated race cars to run at the track, trailered to/from and were never street driven at all. 

I took their advice and stayed on the sidelines watching.

Stephan Schmidt

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #7 on: Nov 24, 16, 10:49 »
Years ago when I lived in NS and talked to some regular AMP race goers it was thought I would dive into the racing there.

After talking with lots of big name racers(at that time in NS) it was concluded never to track a daily driver car, never track your only car and keep a good stock of Rotors/pads/tires/wheels/body parts.

They all were running dedicated race cars to run at the track, trailered to/from and were never street driven at all. 

I took their advice and stayed on the sidelines watching.


I think that makes sense if you are wheel to wheel racing in a series, but lapping days can be done with any car really. 

But expect to go through tires, brakes, and fluids ever 1-2 track days.

Gerg

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #8 on: Nov 24, 16, 10:57 »
I think that makes sense if you are wheel to wheel racing in a series, but lapping days can be done with any car really. 

But expect to go through tires, brakes, and fluids ever 1-2 track days.
I was talking with a member from here about some time attack/lapping days.
Much cheaper and not as harsh on the car. After all what good is a summer toy car if you don't use it?

I have a hard time getting out to mission street legal drag races and I behave on the street so I can keep my drivers licence/career
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Qogu

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #9 on: Nov 24, 16, 11:06 »

aba16v

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #10 on: Nov 24, 16, 11:15 »
Years ago when I lived in NS and talked to some regular AMP race goers it was thought I would dive into the racing there.

After talking with lots of big name racers(at that time in NS) it was concluded never to track a daily driver car, never track your only car and keep a good stock of Rotors/pads/tires/wheels/body parts.

They all were running dedicated race cars to run at the track, trailered to/from and were never street driven at all. 

I took their advice and stayed on the sidelines watching.

X2, vantage motors (the Truro VW dealership)  was going through ~10 transmissions a season with their two mk3 race cars, and at least a set of tires a weekend. They've since moved to a tsi so I imagine those bills have gone up. AMP is a bit more serious of a track than mission though.

I would go for a lower power car personally, NA 16V with good cooling and brakes. The faster you go the faster stuff breaks, and having a slower car will amplify your driving mistakes as you might carry them through to following corners, whereas with big power you could be back up to speed.

« Last Edit: Nov 24, 16, 11:16 by aba16v »

killerb09

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #11 on: Nov 24, 16, 11:20 »
X2, vantage motors (the Truro VW dealership)  was going through ~10 transmissions a season with their two mk3 race cars, and at least a set of tires a weekend. They've since moved to a tsi so I imagine those bills have gone up. AMP is a bit more serious of a track than mission though.

I would go for a lower power car personally, NA 16V with good cooling and brakes. The faster you go the faster stuff breaks, and having a slower car will amplify your driving mistakes as you might carry them through to following corners, whereas with big power you could be back up to speed.

It was McNutt racing guys I was talking to as well as a professor from UNB.  this would have been late 90's Early 2000's when everyone there was looking for the CRX to run fast....I think they still do some pretty nice lap days and driving schools but it's been a good 10-12 years since I was there.

Stephan Schmidt

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #12 on: Nov 24, 16, 11:32 »
I would go for a lower power car personally, NA 16V with good cooling and brakes. The faster you go the faster stuff breaks, and having a slower car will amplify your driving mistakes as you might carry them through to following corners, whereas with big power you could be back up to speed.

The answer is always Miata *puts flame suit on* lol

Qogu

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #13 on: Nov 24, 16, 11:50 »
The answer is always Miata *puts flame suit on* lol
Having an Na miata and going to a track. Safe to say someone at the track has a part if you break it  :thumbup:

Stephan Schmidt

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #14 on: Nov 24, 16, 12:51 »
Having an Na miata and going to a track. Safe to say someone at the track has a part if you break it  :thumbup:

True!  But the funny thing is, they don't break much! LOL

Qogu

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #15 on: Nov 24, 16, 14:36 »
True!  But the funny thing is, they don't break much! LOL

LOL  :thumbup:

syncroboy

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #16 on: Dec 01, 16, 23:41 »
Are tracks days easier on your car than actual racing?  There's no definitive answer because it depends on a few factors:

1.  Yes it's hard on tires and brakes for sure.  Best to have a second set of rims/tires for track only use.  A nice sticky compound like the Bridgestione RE71-R is the hot tire these days.  Bleed your brakes before/after each track day.  Especially if your car has a lack of air flow around the wheels/brakes.

2. Is it hard on bodywork?  Depends how hard you push it. Depends where you're running.  Mission is like driving an Indycar street circuit.  The walls are close.  Where as places like Portland or the Ridge have lots of run-off room should you have an incident.  You cannot break the laws of physics.  Once you lose traction, you're along for the ride.

3. Mechanical wear and tear - engine and trans.  Really depends how smooth of a driver you are and how mechanically sympathetic your technique is.  Do you slam in/out of gearshifts? 


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Madmylo

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #17 on: Dec 02, 16, 16:30 »
Whats the story with mission raceway? Can anyone just land out and say I want to do a lap or does the car need safety features like roll bars special tires etc.. Also do you need helmet etc? Probably an easily googled question but hey im a newb to BC.
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The Producer

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #18 on: Mar 11, 17, 10:18 »
you can hit mission with many of the local car clubs. I did my first mission days with BMWCCBC who partner with Driving Unlimited instructors.

You don't have to be a member to participate.

Most of the other car clubs offer similar starter days.

Join revscene if you haven't already - there are links to the speed syndicate days at the Ridgge in washington. They have a first timers group also

Let's get some dubberz track days going!

Madmylo

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Re: Hitting the track
« Reply #19 on: Mar 11, 17, 14:18 »
Im 100% down for a track day!
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