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Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« on: Apr 29, 18, 09:08 »
As promised, here is the Corrado autobody restoration process.

History:
I purchased the Corrado from my Father-in-Law in 2007. He originally purchased it from VW Germany while living in England. He had is made NA spec as they were retiring in Canada.

As we all have done, there was a lot of maintenance and upgrading mechanically along the way that the car was in dire need of. The rust area along the divers side rear wheel well apprised in 2007. Due to live, work, cancer, life work etc the body got ignored. The car also sat for 4 yrs with a car cover in vancouver rain - my mistake as water ingress between the body and paint.

In looking for a autobody shop, it quickly became apparent that not many had good experiences. I took the car to a number of places and either wasn't impressed with the work environment or got the "Go Away" estimate price.
After reading numerous testimonials about shops on various forums, I decided to stop by VIP Autobody in Burnaby. The shop has a bad history pre Nov 2016. the new owner as of Nov 2016 is determined to turn the shops reputation around and has been very transparent with everything. I've been able to stop by numerous times, talk about the car, my concerns, look at cars he's just finished, starting and in the middle of working on. They currently have a Jag E-Type they are working on. VIP Autobody is only a couple of blocks away from my work, so it's easy for me to stop by anytime to check on the work.

VIP was the only shop who provided me a very detailed breakdown estimate within 24hrs of assessing the car.
I've discovered that there is a history to the car the Father-in-law never told anyone. There has been body damage to both rear 1/4 panels. Bad body restoration that contributed to the rust developing. There are areas where there is no metal work done and 1+ inch of bondo! They will all get properly repaired.
We are discussing options of either cutting out the rust or remediating it in place. Both options will most likely see rust potentially returning at some point in the future. I've heard this from many shops and friend in the industry.

For now enjoy the initial photos. I welcome any comments, suggestions along there way.
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #1 on: Apr 29, 18, 09:14 »
Glass is getting pulled by Dave from Bullet Autoglass. He's been in the industry for over 30+yrs. He stopped by to assess the windows and has pulled these before.

I'll be replacing the windsheild regardless as the current one has issues. I have space 1/4 glass. If the hatch glass breaks, I'll bee needing that but he estimates there should be no problem even though it's bonded to the hatch.

You can zoom in on the pics to see the areas identified as areas needing attention.
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #2 on: Apr 29, 18, 10:15 »
Looks like they are diving right in !
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #3 on: Apr 29, 18, 18:12 »
Watching this one! Can't wait to see the completed car

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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #4 on: Apr 29, 18, 20:39 »
Awesome! Glad to see another old school dub getting pampered
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #5 on: Apr 30, 18, 13:52 »
1 INCH of bondo!!  Good lord.   :o

It seems you've found a great shop to work with.  Keep us posted on the full experience!
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 18, 10:10 »
Love This color and its nice to see a corrado get the royal treatment :)
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 18, 12:15 »
Tiny update
I stopped by to see the progress and discuss the rust issue.

Rust is getting cut out and new metal going in. After reading all your comments and talking with others in the industry I had already decided I wanted it cut out, and so had VIP, so we are on the same page about everything. They'll get started cutting and welding tomorrow.

Bumpers are off, and glass will get pulled at the last moment to keep the interior clean.

Enjoy the pics.
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 18, 10:11 »
Fantastic!


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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 18, 22:20 »
So I'm a little pissed tonight.
When I had decided and committed to attending to the Corrado bodywork, I also had plans for the future... possibly a VR6 swap.
The one thing that is the most difficult to find is a good quality Corrado Vr6 hood.
Lucky for me that a member here was selling one he had.

I'm pissed that:
1: the hood was not in then condition that was advertised
2: I didn't do my due diligence inspecting the hood when the member dropped it off.

The member here advertised the following:
"Mint good from a 93 DBP vr6 corrado. These are becoming extinct and are a nice upgrade for the g60 guys who donít want a g60 style hood.
Itís been painted, itís still wrapped in plastic and a sheet, well protected."

When it was dropped off, it was wrapped protecting the new paint.
I'm really pissed at myself for not pulling the wrapping off and thoroughly inspected it.
If I had, I would NOT have bought it.
I'm really pissed at myself for believing and trusting.

This hood is far from MINT! It's been damaged and in incredibly poor condition.
Whom ever did body work on this thing had no idea what they were doing.
WTF do I do with this thing?

Here's video from todays bodywork inspection:


VIP will get to me on Monday with a quote to fix it if possible.
They already recommend garbaging it, but have said it can be saved... but for how much?

I'm not sure if I really want to throw the $500 I paid for it in the garbage.

I'll have more pictures of the progress on the body later.
The car is looking really good.
The past poor bodywork is being removed, rust is getting cut out, the body is straight...
« Last Edit: May 11, 18, 22:24 by kerobert »
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 18, 00:24 »
It's a 25+ year old hood. In reality, that's what you are going to get. If a body panel is stored off the car or heck, on the car for 25 years, that's what they look like.

I can take any 25 year old body Panel and get it wet, shine the light on it and pull out my pink marker and start circling issues. The problem with bodyshops is that they like money and instead of saying "oh this hood will require some work" they tell you it's terrible and it's going to be difficult to fix and it's going to cost an arm and a leg.

Show me one restoration project that isn't slathered with body filler before primer & paint, its normal.

$500 is not a small amount of money to pay but at the end of the day, this is not an easy part to find.

( p.s. I did not sell this hood or know where it came from )

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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 18, 00:42 »
To elaborate, body panels and hoods in particular are fragile, sure they are steel and seem heavy duty, but in fact they are paper thin and will dent if you look at them wrong, the corners being slightly bent, that's from setting it down a little to hard, which is easy to do with a big awkward panel, especially if you are not used to handling these type of items.

The rest of the damage can very easily occur in storage or transport, you mention having it for months and it being in storage before your purchase.  It's very likely the hood was mint when it was wrapped up. Things like placing it face down or against something wrong or leaning something on it will fuck shit like this up.

I guess i feel bad for you that this was blown so out of proportion when in reality it needs a little work like every single corrado VR6 hood would that you would find forsale.

Also, a project like this never gets completed without some hiccups or surprises.
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 18, 23:34 »
I totally understand what you are saying.
I just wish I had unwrapped it and looked at it before accepting it. I think the PO also should have unwrapped it to make an accurate description before creating the ad.

I'll have to deal with it now.

FYI, New pics have been added to the picture folder.
Enjoy

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNNBloWwAZ1itFPGz2fpqnMumfgNvdzdRcUS0loZfPeDyQknjHQOBrr_JylTpWJ3w?key=c0pXUGtwbUlTTFExRnFIMVNZcHFBWkczRXdWVW93
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 18, 09:12 »
You can fit a vr6 under the hood of a g60 if you use shorter mounts I believe. I was going to do this swap years ago and decided I wanted to keep my g60 original and applicable for collector plates. Thatís something to consider if you ever wanted collector plates. There arenít too many original g60 around but lots of beat up vrís.

If you decided to a vr swap it would be ultra stealth if you got it to fit under your g60 hood..and besides the g60 hoods a lot better IMO. Sleek and not pudgy and it would look OEM on the outside.

If your set on a swap maybe think about doing something original like a 2.0T... that would be cool.  :cool: :cool:


Btw Robert...either way Iím glad to see another rado getting the restoration treatment. These are already classics and the future looks good for these cars .
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 18, 11:50 »
Honestly I'm still on the fence about the swap as I'm also of the mind of keeping it a G60.
I like the Vr6 hood more but that's my personal preference. I'll be keeping then G60 hood in storage.

Actually If I'm going to ever do a engine swap it will be a 3.2! If you're going to spend the $, you should only do it once and be happy! LOL!
But then it NOT a G60 and not original...

Still on the fence!
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 18, 11:59 »
1 vote for collector plates
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 18, 13:17 »
2 votes for collector plates
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 18, 17:16 »
Things are coming along!
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 18, 21:27 »
I hope that 6 on the hood isn't 6 hours repair time.
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Re: Robert's Corrado G60 Autobody restoration
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 18, 07:07 »
Actually, the hood is in such bad shape that it most likely will take that much time.
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